<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: What&#8217;s even better than giving money to Haiti?</title> <atom:link href="http://chrisblattman.com/2010/01/14/whats-even-better-than-giving-money-to-haiti/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://chrisblattman.com/2010/01/14/whats-even-better-than-giving-money-to-haiti/</link> <description>International development, politics, economics, and policy</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:53:48 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Nathan Smith</title><link>http://chrisblattman.com/2010/01/14/whats-even-better-than-giving-money-to-haiti/comment-page-1/#comment-11045</link> <dc:creator>Nathan Smith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:46:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chrisblattman.com/?p=4130#comment-11045</guid> <description>Thanks for the Michael Clemens link. I favor some form of open borders and believe that anyone who doesn&#039;t is either ignorant or has a bad conscience. That said, I think it&#039;s a little bit naive when people talk about it as if it&#039;s a development idea that just hasn&#039;t occurred to anyone. I think the following points are pretty clear:1. Absent labor mobility, there&#039;s a tendency towards divergence or at best slow convergence in the world economy, and foreign aid can&#039;t do much about that.2. Labor mobility (immigration) can raise incomes quickly and dramatically, and has other beneficial side effects such as remittances and the spread of good ideas and institutions.3. But labor mobility tends to cause slight inconveniences to the poorer native-born strata in rich countries, such as slight erosion of wages, and perhaps, more subtly, an undermining of their moral claim to predation-by-ballot at the expense of more productive strata at home.  Immigrants tend to start out a lot poorer, but rise through enterprise and hard work, and in any case to regard their lot as rather a fortunate one, relative to their fellows who were unable to come.  This makes it harder for native-born voters to pose as victims and ask for handouts.When you hear calls for labor mobility to be allowed as a form of development aid, it is as if an appeal is being made to the conscience of the median voter in (say) the US.  But if the median voter in the US obeyed the dictates of conscience we wouldn&#039;t have immigration restrictions in the first place.  Is there another way?  Perhaps a World Migration Organization (WMO) which would try to influence the evolution of global property rights in such a way that firms headquartered in migration-restrictionist countries would be subject to confiscation of their assets abroad?  Make Border Patrol agents subject to arrest if they set foot outside the United States?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the Michael Clemens link. I favor some form of open borders and believe that anyone who doesn&#8217;t is either ignorant or has a bad conscience. That said, I think it&#8217;s a little bit naive when people talk about it as if it&#8217;s a development idea that just hasn&#8217;t occurred to anyone. I think the following points are pretty clear:</p><p>1. Absent labor mobility, there&#8217;s a tendency towards divergence or at best slow convergence in the world economy, and foreign aid can&#8217;t do much about that.</p><p>2. Labor mobility (immigration) can raise incomes quickly and dramatically, and has other beneficial side effects such as remittances and the spread of good ideas and institutions.</p><p>3. But labor mobility tends to cause slight inconveniences to the poorer native-born strata in rich countries, such as slight erosion of wages, and perhaps, more subtly, an undermining of their moral claim to predation-by-ballot at the expense of more productive strata at home.  Immigrants tend to start out a lot poorer, but rise through enterprise and hard work, and in any case to regard their lot as rather a fortunate one, relative to their fellows who were unable to come.  This makes it harder for native-born voters to pose as victims and ask for handouts.</p><p>When you hear calls for labor mobility to be allowed as a form of development aid, it is as if an appeal is being made to the conscience of the median voter in (say) the US.  But if the median voter in the US obeyed the dictates of conscience we wouldn&#8217;t have immigration restrictions in the first place.  Is there another way?  Perhaps a World Migration Organization (WMO) which would try to influence the evolution of global property rights in such a way that firms headquartered in migration-restrictionist countries would be subject to confiscation of their assets abroad?  Make Border Patrol agents subject to arrest if they set foot outside the United States?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike</title><link>http://chrisblattman.com/2010/01/14/whats-even-better-than-giving-money-to-haiti/comment-page-1/#comment-11004</link> <dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:26:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chrisblattman.com/?p=4130#comment-11004</guid> <description>It&#039;s happened: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/01/obama_gives_haitians_in_us_ill.html .</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s happened: <a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/01/obama_gives_haitians_in_us_ill.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/01/obama_gives_haitians_in_us_ill.html</a> .</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: doug</title><link>http://chrisblattman.com/2010/01/14/whats-even-better-than-giving-money-to-haiti/comment-page-1/#comment-11001</link> <dc:creator>doug</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:35:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chrisblattman.com/?p=4130#comment-11001</guid> <description>How about debt cancellation?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about debt cancellation?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gabriel</title><link>http://chrisblattman.com/2010/01/14/whats-even-better-than-giving-money-to-haiti/comment-page-1/#comment-11000</link> <dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:47:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chrisblattman.com/?p=4130#comment-11000</guid> <description>Great to see that this idea has gotten some traction; I&#039;m optimistic that Obama will make the right call on TPS.I used to work on Haiti and have been there many times. I wrote up some thoughts, focusing on the question of what would happen if the U.S. allowed a temporary influx of Haitians. My one original point: the 1980 Mariel boatlift is a reasonably analogue. See my post here: http://whirledcitizen.wordpress.com/2010/01/15/hello-world/</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to see that this idea has gotten some traction; I&#8217;m optimistic that Obama will make the right call on TPS.</p><p>I used to work on Haiti and have been there many times. I wrote up some thoughts, focusing on the question of what would happen if the U.S. allowed a temporary influx of Haitians. My one original point: the 1980 Mariel boatlift is a reasonably analogue. See my post here:<br /> <a href="http://whirledcitizen.wordpress.com/2010/01/15/hello-world/" rel="nofollow">http://whirledcitizen.wordpress.com/2010/01/15/hello-world/</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike</title><link>http://chrisblattman.com/2010/01/14/whats-even-better-than-giving-money-to-haiti/comment-page-1/#comment-10999</link> <dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 07:31:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chrisblattman.com/?p=4130#comment-10999</guid> <description>USCRI, Change.org  and others also have &quot;send a message to your representative&quot; thingies up, too about this issue. Here is the link to USCRI&#039;s http://uscri.refugees.org/site/R?i=SQu4x7Z6mmf5-AWpTAZ5kw</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>USCRI, Change.org  and others also have &#8220;send a message to your representative&#8221; thingies up, too about this issue. Here is the link to USCRI&#8217;s <a href="http://uscri.refugees.org/site/R?i=SQu4x7Z6mmf5-AWpTAZ5kw" rel="nofollow">http://uscri.refugees.org/site/R?i=SQu4x7Z6mmf5-AWpTAZ5kw</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt</title><link>http://chrisblattman.com/2010/01/14/whats-even-better-than-giving-money-to-haiti/comment-page-1/#comment-10996</link> <dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:33:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chrisblattman.com/?p=4130#comment-10996</guid> <description>Thanks for posting this, Chris.  It&#039;s a very good idea.  Deportations to Haiti have already been suspended and I&#039;m hoping that an order for TPS will follow soon.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this, Chris.  It&#8217;s a very good idea.  Deportations to Haiti have already been suspended and I&#8217;m hoping that an order for TPS will follow soon.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Deirdre</title><link>http://chrisblattman.com/2010/01/14/whats-even-better-than-giving-money-to-haiti/comment-page-1/#comment-10995</link> <dc:creator>Deirdre</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:22:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chrisblattman.com/?p=4130#comment-10995</guid> <description>Many Haitians in Canada (not people convicted of certain crimes) are protected by a Temporary Suspension of Removal (TSR), which is similar to TPS. But, this does not mean Canada is not thinking of altering its immigration policies. This articles describes how Canada is considering making emigration from Haiti easier due to the earthquake, something to follow up on:http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100114/national/haiti_earthquake_cda_immigration</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many Haitians in Canada (not people convicted of certain crimes) are protected by a Temporary Suspension of Removal (TSR), which is similar to TPS. But, this does not mean Canada is not thinking of altering its immigration policies. This articles describes how Canada is considering making emigration from Haiti easier due to the earthquake, something to follow up on:</p><p><a href="http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100114/national/haiti_earthquake_cda_immigration" rel="nofollow">http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100114/national/haiti_earthquake_cda_immigration</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Caitlin</title><link>http://chrisblattman.com/2010/01/14/whats-even-better-than-giving-money-to-haiti/comment-page-1/#comment-10991</link> <dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:04:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chrisblattman.com/?p=4130#comment-10991</guid> <description>Do you know if there&#039;s an equivalent to TPS in Canada?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know if there&#8217;s an equivalent to TPS in Canada?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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