Comments on: Guantanamo: the new Canadian Hong Kong http://chrisblattman.com/2009/09/24/guantanamo-the-new-canadian-hong-kong/ Research, international development, foreign policy, and violent conflict Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:38:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: From Poverty to Power by Duncan Green » Blog Archive » Charter Cities – visionary, naive or bonkers? http://chrisblattman.com/2009/09/24/guantanamo-the-new-canadian-hong-kong/comment-page-1/#comment-8360 From Poverty to Power by Duncan Green » Blog Archive » Charter Cities – visionary, naive or bonkers? Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:13:34 +0000 http://chrisblattman.com/?p=3510#comment-8360 [...] Chris Blattman has also blogged on this, Paul Romer has responded to his criticisms here, and Chris, in determined search of the last word, has responded to Romer’s response here. [...] [...] Chris Blattman has also blogged on this, Paul Romer has responded to his criticisms here, and Chris, in determined search of the last word, has responded to Romer’s response here. [...]

]]> By: Cities of the North « Andrew Leigh http://chrisblattman.com/2009/09/24/guantanamo-the-new-canadian-hong-kong/comment-page-1/#comment-7888 Cities of the North « Andrew Leigh Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:40:58 +0000 http://chrisblattman.com/?p=3510#comment-7888 [...] here. And Chris Blattman responds (and Romer [...] [...] here. And Chris Blattman responds (and Romer [...]

]]> By: Cities of the North : Core Economics http://chrisblattman.com/2009/09/24/guantanamo-the-new-canadian-hong-kong/comment-page-1/#comment-7886 Cities of the North : Core Economics Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:39:32 +0000 http://chrisblattman.com/?p=3510#comment-7886 [...] here. And Chris Blattman responds (and Romer [...] [...] here. And Chris Blattman responds (and Romer [...]

]]> By: Living Just Enough for the City? Extended Thoughts on the Charter Cities Proposal « Aid Thoughts http://chrisblattman.com/2009/09/24/guantanamo-the-new-canadian-hong-kong/comment-page-1/#comment-7663 Living Just Enough for the City? Extended Thoughts on the Charter Cities Proposal « Aid Thoughts Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:12:04 +0000 http://chrisblattman.com/?p=3510#comment-7663 [...] Charter Cities idea yet? Chris Blattman heard him speak about it recently, announced himself interested and unconvinced – and Romer responded eloquently within a week. Aid Watch even gave him a Q&A in which to [...] [...] Charter Cities idea yet? Chris Blattman heard him speak about it recently, announced himself interested and unconvinced – and Romer responded eloquently within a week. Aid Watch even gave him a Q&A in which to [...]

]]> By: Evolution versus révolution et “proto-cités” « Rationalité Limitée http://chrisblattman.com/2009/09/24/guantanamo-the-new-canadian-hong-kong/comment-page-1/#comment-7626 Evolution versus révolution et “proto-cités” « Rationalité Limitée Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:57:57 +0000 http://chrisblattman.com/?p=3510#comment-7626 [...] à mettre en place ex nihilo des règles alignant de manière efficace les incitations, comme le note Chris Blattman. Et, si l’on peut penser que une telle proto-cité corrigerait progressivement ses [...] [...] à mettre en place ex nihilo des règles alignant de manière efficace les incitations, comme le note Chris Blattman. Et, si l’on peut penser que une telle proto-cité corrigerait progressivement ses [...]

]]> By: the right charter city analogy « Publius’ Napkin http://chrisblattman.com/2009/09/24/guantanamo-the-new-canadian-hong-kong/comment-page-1/#comment-7618 the right charter city analogy « Publius’ Napkin Tue, 06 Oct 2009 03:10:48 +0000 http://chrisblattman.com/?p=3510#comment-7618 [...] right charter city analogy Chris Blattman and Paul Romer provide a productive back-and-forth on Romer’s charter cities idea. Blattman [...] [...] right charter city analogy Chris Blattman and Paul Romer provide a productive back-and-forth on Romer’s charter cities idea. Blattman [...]

]]> By: Marc Bilodeau http://chrisblattman.com/2009/09/24/guantanamo-the-new-canadian-hong-kong/comment-page-1/#comment-7386 Marc Bilodeau Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:40:08 +0000 http://chrisblattman.com/?p=3510#comment-7386 Just like an American to propose using another country's sovereign territory to conduct a grand experiment. Guatanamo is sovereign Cuban land leased to the U.S. under a century old treaty. For more than half a century, the Cuban government has been asking for it back. What should the U.S. do with Guantanamo? Clean up all toxic substances and garbage dumps, and leave. The Cubans will do whatever they want with it. I'd like to propose that San Diego, or San Antonio or Miami, be converted into Charter cities. No need to ask the people of these places what they think of the plan. Just like an American to propose using another country’s sovereign territory to conduct a grand experiment. Guatanamo is sovereign Cuban land leased to the U.S. under a century old treaty. For more than half a century, the Cuban government has been asking for it back. What should the U.S. do with Guantanamo? Clean up all toxic substances and garbage dumps, and leave. The Cubans will do whatever they want with it. I’d like to propose that San Diego, or San Antonio or Miami, be converted into Charter cities. No need to ask the people of these places what they think of the plan.

]]> By: Kerol Lundy http://chrisblattman.com/2009/09/24/guantanamo-the-new-canadian-hong-kong/comment-page-1/#comment-7359 Kerol Lundy Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:30:03 +0000 http://chrisblattman.com/?p=3510#comment-7359 I like Mr. Paul Romer’s presentation and I feel because I have known and lived “Nelson” situation. Since he took Haiti as an example of bad governance, I would agree with his comment one hundred percent. It seems to me that his proposal for developing a free economic zone under the aegis of a particular economic power where nationals of that given country would be able to go to work and make an income aimed at cutting migration from country A to B. That would solve a lot of problems and bring a solution to illegal immigration. In the case of Guantanamo Bay, thousand of Cubans would find jobs, as it was the case of Hong Kong, thus cutting the flow of illegal washing ashore in Florida. I think that the same thing can be said for Haiti. If we beg the US or Canada, France, or Brazil to create a Charter City-like free zone initiatives (free economic enclave) in Haiti, that would in cut migration out of the country but increase it form the inside where peasant would abandon land to go for low paying job in the cities. I am surprise that France and Spain did not build up on that idea to Charter City-like free zone initiatives in Senegal or Morocco to cut migration from former colonies. I like Mr. Paul Romer’s presentation and I feel because I have known and lived “Nelson” situation. Since he took Haiti as an example of bad governance, I would agree with his comment one hundred percent. It seems to me that his proposal for developing a free economic zone under the aegis of a particular economic power where nationals of that given country would be able to go to work and make an income aimed at cutting migration from country A to B. That would solve a lot of problems and bring a solution to illegal immigration. In the case of Guantanamo Bay, thousand of Cubans would find jobs, as it was the case of Hong Kong, thus cutting the flow of illegal washing ashore in Florida. I think that the same thing can be said for Haiti. If we beg the US or Canada, France, or Brazil to create a Charter City-like free zone initiatives (free economic enclave) in Haiti, that would in cut migration out of the country but increase it form the inside where peasant would abandon land to go for low paying job in the cities.
I am surprise that France and Spain did not build up on that idea to Charter City-like free zone initiatives in Senegal or Morocco to cut migration from former colonies.

]]> By: Phillip Huggan http://chrisblattman.com/2009/09/24/guantanamo-the-new-canadian-hong-kong/comment-page-1/#comment-7289 Phillip Huggan Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:38:40 +0000 http://chrisblattman.com/?p=3510#comment-7289 I would think brainstorming the rules is the key step. If you have them good a progressive Mayor like Chicago's or a progressive existing underutilized town like the bald Midwest mayor's who appeared on the Daily Show about Green Jobs, he would welcome the USA unemployed/homeless migrants. Where this specifically fails is Canada doesn't want Naval responsibilities in Carribean. There is an island we want to own to avoid currency transaction costs for vacationers, but we don't want to pay to defend it given Arctic sovereignty issues with world's largest navies. In general, you need to invest lots before the unskilled uneducated labourers can pay taxes. They will start out as farmer labourers without this investment. Might be a project for an oil sultan assuming some skill immigrants but they'd want some of your to-be-reinvested profits. As social experiments to determine some optimal policies cities might pay for themselve. I've speculated on an arctic island for emergency climate refugees but need to get the costs of living down. Quite frankly, distressed refugees used to farming cassava won't form useful development policy using democracy unless some skilled workers are also a part of the equation. Apart from the funding issue I like the minset. Maybe language and trade Universities and then send them to be nurses wherever? I would think brainstorming the rules is the key step. If you have them good a progressive Mayor like Chicago’s or a progressive existing underutilized town like the bald Midwest mayor’s who appeared on the Daily Show about Green Jobs, he would welcome the USA unemployed/homeless migrants.
Where this specifically fails is Canada doesn’t want Naval responsibilities in Carribean. There is an island we want to own to avoid currency transaction costs for vacationers, but we don’t want to pay to defend it given Arctic sovereignty issues with world’s largest navies.

In general, you need to invest lots before the unskilled uneducated labourers can pay taxes. They will start out as farmer labourers without this investment. Might be a project for an oil sultan assuming some skill immigrants but they’d want some of your to-be-reinvested profits. As social experiments to determine some optimal policies cities might pay for themselve. I’ve speculated on an arctic island for emergency climate refugees but need to get the costs of living down. Quite frankly, distressed refugees used to farming cassava won’t form useful development policy using democracy unless some skilled workers are also a part of the equation. Apart from the funding issue I like the minset. Maybe language and trade Universities and then send them to be nurses wherever?

]]> By: What does Paul Romer think of Dubai? http://chrisblattman.com/2009/09/24/guantanamo-the-new-canadian-hong-kong/comment-page-1/#comment-7279 What does Paul Romer think of Dubai? Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:30:15 +0000 http://chrisblattman.com/?p=3510#comment-7279 [...] what does he think of Dubai? Chris Blattman paraphrases Romer’s view: …unlike Dubai (which proves a city can be built anywhere) we’ll let the workers bring [...] [...] what does he think of Dubai? Chris Blattman paraphrases Romer’s view: …unlike Dubai (which proves a city can be built anywhere) we’ll let the workers bring [...]

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